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	<title>Comments on: Who Will Be the Next VisiCalc?</title>
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		<title>by: morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.architected.info/blog/who-will-be-the-next-visicalc#comment-338</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Marc,

Good point.  I think that for very large enterprises that these tools are going to be a stretch, and for any size organization you are still going to need people to integrate it all.  However, over time I think the "stretch" is going to become less and less until it joins the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Good point.  I think that for very large enterprises that these tools are going to be a stretch, and for any size organization you are still going to need people to integrate it all.  However, over time I think the &#8220;stretch&#8221; is going to become less and less until it joins the mainstream.
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		<title>by: Marc Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.architected.info/blog/who-will-be-the-next-visicalc#comment-335</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For enterprises, doesn't the data still need to be managed somewhere and by someone? For consumer oriented tools, I buy that this issue is of less concern. But what about for enterprises?  And aren't things like Salesforce.com just software as a service? A new way of offering hosted software?  But even then, they need to manage all of that data somewhere.  And larger organizations are going to want to manage and control their own data.  So isn't web 2.0 for the enterprise really about providing some thin veneer to hide the complexity of the underlying enterprise systems...which still need to exist though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For enterprises, doesn&#8217;t the data still need to be managed somewhere and by someone? For consumer oriented tools, I buy that this issue is of less concern. But what about for enterprises?  And aren&#8217;t things like Salesforce.com just software as a service? A new way of offering hosted software?  But even then, they need to manage all of that data somewhere.  And larger organizations are going to want to manage and control their own data.  So isn&#8217;t web 2.0 for the enterprise really about providing some thin veneer to hide the complexity of the underlying enterprise systems&#8230;which still need to exist though?
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		<title>by: Architected Information &#187; Enterprise Web 2.0, Linux, and Ecclesiastes</title>
		<link>http://www.architected.info/blog/who-will-be-the-next-visicalc#comment-324</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Putting on my prediction hat, I would say on the back-end of the information architecture web 2.0 will have an impact similiar to that of Linux. That is, it will displace some really expensive, customized solutions, free up resources for real innovation, and push everyone forward about 10 years at no cost. You see, the really interesting thing that web 2.0 applications do for the enterprise is to dramatically reduce costs for existing processes. For next-generation tools like Basecamp you don&#8217;t need hardware, software, drivers, or an administrator. You need an intern and a scripting language. As a long-time ETL guy, I have to say that is huge. It strips away all the barnacles of the information architecture, leaving only the actual work that needs to be done. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Putting on my prediction hat, I would say on the back-end of the information architecture web 2.0 will have an impact similiar to that of Linux. That is, it will displace some really expensive, customized solutions, free up resources for real innovation, and push everyone forward about 10 years at no cost. You see, the really interesting thing that web 2.0 applications do for the enterprise is to dramatically reduce costs for existing processes. For next-generation tools like Basecamp you don&#8217;t need hardware, software, drivers, or an administrator. You need an intern and a scripting language. As a long-time ETL guy, I have to say that is huge. It strips away all the barnacles of the information architecture, leaving only the actual work that needs to be done. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Architected Information &#187; An interesting mash-up</title>
		<link>http://www.architected.info/blog/who-will-be-the-next-visicalc#comment-51</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I think that this is solid recognition that data as a service is not only possible, but probably for the enterprise. Also, a nice move by Informatica to keep its products towards the leading edge. At the same time, I wonder if we are trying to teach an old dog new tricks. After all, Cast Iron Systems sells EAI appliances that are also integrated with Salesforce.com. Probably not, as the really profitable customers of ETL tool vendors are probably not the same ones looking at appliances. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I think that this is solid recognition that data as a service is not only possible, but probably for the enterprise. Also, a nice move by Informatica to keep its products towards the leading edge. At the same time, I wonder if we are trying to teach an old dog new tricks. After all, Cast Iron Systems sells EAI appliances that are also integrated with Salesforce.com. Probably not, as the really profitable customers of ETL tool vendors are probably not the same ones looking at appliances. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.architected.info/blog/who-will-be-the-next-visicalc#comment-50</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Stephen,

I hadn't really thought of it that way. A lot of times I am really leery of the "best practices" movement, as that normally just translates to "do things my way and don't ask questions."  However, if things are malleable enough (like with web services) then you really have the best of both worlds, access and flexibility.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t really thought of it that way. A lot of times I am really leery of the &#8220;best practices&#8221; movement, as that normally just translates to &#8220;do things my way and don&#8217;t ask questions.&#8221;  However, if things are malleable enough (like with web services) then you really have the best of both worlds, access and flexibility.</p>
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